Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Alhashed, 4 minutes ago . . don't think i gave you enough detail it is a cosmetic repair not a failed lintel wood not dream of trying to repair a failed lintel. This lintel was already in need of redecorating as there is significant evidence of past water ingress, however having lived in the house since 2016. Hausfix, Sep 15, 2022. If that's the case, then if it's for a door, you'll probably want to move the opening over a few inches anyhow to allow clearance for the door handle etc. When you can feel that the drill in nearly through then stop and use your 5 or 5. Masonry load above (standard Catnic lintel) 2700mm span. Hello Everyone, We are currently renovating an old victorian property and we are wanting to make an alteration downstairs. Sabrefix Gallows Brackets Galvanised Hot Dipped 490mm x 50mm 2 Pack. thanks for the advice about not needing a. Hausfix Screwfix Select. 8 m wide. The interior already has a concrete lintel in. The UK’s leading retailer of. Clearly there was some major lack of coordination between the brick layers and the appropriate position of the window frames. This coupled with the fact that the bedroom directly above has a very spongey and dipping floor (dips roughly in line with the window below) make me. #19. Drill Bits. #6. If you’ve got a brand new drill bit, you’ll find it quick and easy. Step 1: is the lintel man enough to carry the loads? Step 2: install following manufacturers instructions to prop during brickwork as span > 1500. = 184. The ingoing edge nearing the ceiling hit a metal lintel some 3 foot or so into the garage. 'I-beam, H-beam, girder, lintel, Rolled Steel Joist, Rigid Steel Joist etc. Supplied in a weatherproof bag. Buy online & collect in hundreds of stores in as little as 1 minute! Free returns. The wall plate is supporting to roof rafters as well as roof so there is some load. Simon74, Sep 13, 2016. Bigger window and lintel replacement. What is involved in changing the lintel if necessary. I think we need a lintel for supporting upper floor structure (mid terrace house small house). CLEARANCE. Use like a regular powdered filler. 4 kN/m (26kN/m if the span is 1. #1. 2. Or if you have some money rent one from a local rental place (cheaper than the chains). Hopefully the picture helps. a standard brick is 65mm high so by the time you add mortar the 140mm height means you get two courses of bricks and 1 lintel to even match up. The both garages of both houses are in the mid part. . talk, Oct 19, 2008 #1. com. Got a vaulted cellar under the kitchen. #2. There was a curtain rail already nailed in (by the original builder ~40 years ago most likely), about 3 inches above the top of the window, so would anywhere above that point be ok? I read that most curtains are added about 6 inches above the window so would that be a safer bet? This is my first time doing any household DIY so many thanks!Hi, I need a lintel for over a ground floor door opening, I'm moving the opening about 350mm to the side, above is 1 and 12 light block and the floor joists for a bedroom, every room upstairs is stud wall so nothing other than the joists and blocks need support, the doorway is into the garage and was put in long after the house was built, and. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Judith Birkett, Nov 8, 2020. Yes you can fit a door there, yes you will need a lintel and yes you can reposition the strap or cut the majority off and fix the remaining to the four courses of bricks. Then cutting out and removing old lintel/s, which will mean loosening course of bricks above. Pick a joint line and follow that. Most BCO are happy with this. 20mm at its most extreme and it’s pulled brickwork to the right the window, causing quite a lot of cracking. Height 55mm. I am currently rendering my 1930 semi detatched home. I have been told that I need 2 7x4 steel lintels bolted together to span 2. Houses in the 60's and 70's were often built without a lintel on the outer skin. Lintels tend to be of similar design so looking on Standard-Concrete. The part picture is the widest. A lintel, whether concrete,metal should have a minimum bearing of 150mm bearing each end,now't wrong with a lintel having a bit more support each end. Acrow into place. Good morning. Lee Swain New Member. They were L-shaped (so I'm guessing there's another lintel for the block part of the cavity wall). I intend to replace the conservatory, but just find that the mortar above the lintel has cracks causing like 3-5mm horizontal gap. So the lintel manufacturers are more likely the ones spreading such tosh. You stated that you didn't know the correct terminology. Tamp it well down into the formwork to get rid of any voids. As a temporary fix, hubby screwed a heavy-duty angle bracket (like for a roof joist) into that corner, and wedged in another "jamb" on that side. Prestressed concrete lintels are an excellent solution in providing economical and robust masonry support over door. Allow to set, remove lower bricks to form opening. I'm trying to drill some holes above a wide window in a 1960s/1970s ex-council house to fix some brackets (top fixing) for some blinds in the kitchen. 1m will give a UDL of 19. so a 140x100 is 140 high as concrete lintels only span a single leaf of bricks. stevie22 Screwfix Select. Joe the Plumber Screwfix Select. Del boy 10, Jun 30, 2023. . 5 for the floor load and doesn't leave much for the brickwork and any roof loads on the wall. It may have been cast in place and bars have gone rusty plus water got in it so it's cracked. Choose from top trade brands. 5 = 0. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Padstones generally not required for Catnics, but in. Initial set achieved in 5-10 minutes. I saw three of the four lintels that the builder took out. 64m2. When you use the key to unlock the door, if you leave the key in the lock and open the door the key hits on the lintel above and is prone to snap (as the carpenter found out). I've got to a few heavy blinds to top fix so need a reliable screw that won't snap when screwing into metal lintels or fail when the blinds are being used. My question is what is better a concrete lintel ( Supreme Concrete Prestressed Textured Concrete Lintel 65mm x 100mm) from travis perkins or a wooden lintel also from travis perkins ( Sawn Treated Timber Regularised C16/C24 75mm x 100mm x 3. Explore our. More Info. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by shaun1235456, Apr 13, 2017. I can’t find one anywhere though!. This is unlikely. You could use strappers to tie the blocks into. Whereas the usual DPC in a brickwall is 150 cm above ground level in the diagram the lintel is sitting much further down and getting wet from both top and bottom. The lintel is only supporting the inner skin of block work. com. Then prepare opening to receive new lintel/s and make good brickwork that ends of lintel will rest upon. Erbauer Straight Shank Ground HSS Drill Bits 12mm x 151mm 5 Pack (24565) (403) compare. #11. Finally with 100 bricks and a 215 wide wall you only have 100 left for the lintel beam. 150 is the norm as you say with 100 ok at low span. 4 kN/m (26kN/m if the span is 1. The stone lintel could be removed and repaired with threaded rods through from left to right, tighten the nuts and pull the lintel back together, re fit the lintel as decoration only. CLEARANCE. Lintels are designed to support masonry above an opening, whether it be filled with a window, door frame or nothing at all. Is it ok to drill into a concrete lintel or should I stick a wooden plinth on top and use that to hang the blind? 2. To prevent corbonation it must be vibrated and the mix. So the ops 1. Begin by drilling a shallow hole on low power before increasing the speed and engaging the hammer feature. I don't suppose you sometimes feel like you Iive under an. Nowadays they are often pre-stressed in the neutral plane. The actual overhang area of the lintel rests in has a greater height (a bricks worth of height). I would Get it surveyed. I got 4 painted steel lintels replaced at my house with galvanised ones. However this only appears to work for some drill holes and not for others. The lintel has the same width as the PVCu sliding door. Â, Feb 21, 2006. 6m. Even allowing for the dodgy brickwork/bits of. stevie22 Screwfix Select. replace lintel and then have the joints repointed to ensure integrity between bricks. So I need to replace it. Mix up like a regular powdered filler. Drilling into a lintel seems like a bad idea, what with it holding up the wall and everything. 1m lintel as per my report to knock down a load bearing wall. They are refusing to pay saying wrong lintel was put in and waiting for structural engineer to do his report. there is no 'wall' weight to support - just the lintel itself then the wall plate/roof Flat roof will be (assuming I. Yes, you need a lintel even though it’s only for 6 bricks and you also really needed it signed off by building control either via the fensa scheme or a BCO. Aaron Mcculla New Member. This will prevent the stones from falling away when they're disturbed. All the windows have a concrete lintel as shown on the attached photos. The upstairs ones you cannot even see above the solider bricks before you hit the roof. Buy Resins at Screwfix. If they have been there for 15 years then I don't really see the problem. Use like a regular powdered filler. Quality SDS drill is what you can do with for drilling concrete lintels , you dont have to buy one you can hire one to save you some expense, cos you get what you pay for you might as well hire a quality one than buy. I do believe there are no lintels. Phil the Paver Screwfix Select If you are removing the door to leave an opening, then i would fit a concrete lintel in above the door frame before you remove it, and then plaster over it after. The builder cleaned the bricks and mortar around the new lintels with brick cleaner to help disguise the work done on the house. What lintel is on the outer skin? Or is it an arch. Your screws are too short and the self tapping side of things is pointless for this scenario. Unless it's an unusually wide doorframe, don't bother with mechanical fixings in the head, once frame is fixed in position through the jambs, squirt expanding foam all around the back and head to close any gaps, insulate and further secure in position, it'll. 5 metre joist ends for a bedroom, whoever put the doorway in just cut the. If it was my own place I wouldn't mind as I would remember to take the key out before opening. Just buy a small cheap one if you don't have one. arrow Screwfix Select. Hausfix, Jun 13, 2022. Even composite ones with a single bar in the centre or neutral plane can have a rough top as a key for the brickwork. You need to get yourself at least two, maybe three acrows with strongboy head attachments and slot the strongboys under the dodgy blocks then fit the acrow props on top of a plank of wood to spread the load distribution, then jam the acrows under the strongboys and. Doesn't look like a lintel is in place on the external skin brickwork. forever i said! I'm hear all week! Major Mal Funxion, Jun 26, 2008 #1. Where the coal shoots used to be they are wooden lintels. Order online at Screwfix. While I think this is the easiest option it might look the worst. CLEARANCE. stevie22 Screwfix Select. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by talk, Oct 19, 2008. #2. Screwfix Community Forum. I have a Catnic single leaf angle lintel and the lip is 91mm. It'll need to be galvanised so the exposed soffit doesn't rust. Can then sand down and shape like a regular filler, ready to paint. No need for structural engineers, no need for expensive steel beams, no need for fuss. Correct way to do this would be to use accrow props with stronboys. Density of thermalite block say 730kg /m3 (depends on specific block used), hence 110kg /m2 for 150mm thick block. Don’t worry, it’s not especially difficult to do, however. I am guessing (emphasis on guessing) that the SDS is quickly going through plaster and maybe. The cracks only span as wide as the window itself, around 3m, and are only maximum 1mm in width. So you need to find a steel stockholders / fabricators (London's not my area - sorry) and ask them for 2 n. When it is cold it is contracted leaving small gaps between the brick and the pointing for which rainwater can get into, when it is warm it is flushed with the bricks. Buy great products from our Steel Lintels Category online at Wickes. ), with virtually no risk of the bricks above moving. Would anyone know if there is an issue and what I should expect to pay to get it sorted. I would have said not to be concerned but the crack is also on the. CJR1989 New Member. I can see that the brick work above the doors sags a bit in the middle, it was like this before but is something that i. Little bit confused about the amount of choice regarding concrete lintels. If they have been there for 15 years then I don't really see the problem. If windows were fitted by a window company then they should have notices this at the surveyor. Use the smallest bit to drill a pilot hole and work your way up to your required size. 7 metre clear span (max) is capable of 1kn loads an average floor load is 1. This added over 50% more cost to. Deleted member 33931, Mar 23, 2016. In the days before lintels, you will always see a relief arch about 4 courses above an opening. Garden room lintel. Notnowvicar, Feb 23, 2023. you are asking a question that can not be answered over the net, a little stupid me thinks. Step 3 - Remove center prop and fill with mortar repeat for props left and right, wait 5 days. replace lintel and then have the joints repointed to ensure integrity between bricks. £29. Step 1: is the lintel man enough to carry the loads? Step 2: install following manufacturers instructions to prop during brickwork as span > 1500. Fischer FIS V Zero 300T Injection Mortar 300ml (498HL) compare. Support bracket for removal of internal chimney breast. The other (identical) opening has to support an existing 250x250 steel beam (at 90 degrees) that is currently supporting an upstairs wall which in turn supports the wall plate which has the roof on it and. This is why is quite important to drill a pilot hole 1mm less than the screw to get a good fixing. are you a taffy by any chance, dim dips**t. Probably 200x100. Self tapping screws into the lintel to create a strong fixing as the blinds are very heavy. With concrete up top, a prestressed concrete lintel would not look out of place. The Tech Spec for the lintel states: "As the brickwork mortar matures, lintels of over 1200mm spans should be propped at 1200mm centres. Screwfix Community Forum. 6 meter bifold doors in the front of the extension. Discussion in. I use a 4mm cobalt bit from the competition (you get a pack of two for a few pence). So this was the main lintel over the garage span supporting the upper story. The wall plate is supporting to roof rafters as well as roof so there is some load. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Afternoon all I’m about to put a single skin lintel in above a window before putting patio doors in. A crack in a reinforced concrete lintel isn't going to be of much concern normally, but this sounds like it could have been a very heavy/substantial impact in a direction the lintel isn't designed to be strong - something of an unknown quantity - I'd want it replaced. Compare. 8kn. There will be guidelines on Birtley's website: what else do you want ? stevie22, Mar 30, 2023. Fixings not included. John Levit said: ↑. #3. 09 Inc Vat. I thought padstones were supposed to be slate or metal! Mr. Some look like they’ve been repaired previously but now have hairline cracks again. handyman. I usually use 20mm stones , sand and cement (2, 2, 1) If you make strong formwork with say 18mm plywood with support behind the stones will just disappear into the mix. Buy Structural Fixings at Screwfix. Hi, Confused myself on regs (we are in Wales) for lintel overhang (bit that rests on block work), always thought was 150mm each end on new block work, builder put some lintels in today over a 900 wide window opening, the window is on first floor with a second floor to go above. ProDave New Member. Maybe concrete padstones will be required here. Or hire a builder for a day. Get 10% off - View Offer. 32 mm. As you can see there are 2 damaged aerated blocks on the inner leaf and one damaged on the outer leaf underneath the 150mm bearing of the lintel. sagging. I've taken the chimney out in my house and whilst I was removing it found it was partly being supported by what I can only describe as a concrete lintel that is inserted into the party wall, presumably for counter leverage. Window head and lintel 3. The lintel should have minimum 100mm bearing either side. Above the garage door will be cladded with cement board rather than be load bearing like blocks. Wall fillers and flexible fillers create a clean smooth and professional finish. Can then sand down and shape like a regular filler, ready to paint. You must support the floor and wall above properly with acro's and needles before attempting to remove the brickwork. Wall on the right side of the opening (the compromised side) is 9cm thick, and wall on the left side is 25cm thick. downstairs bay window frame is cracking and was also fitted on to loose brick work which the company just repointed . I have had lintels installed (wooden framed windows) builders thought no lintel needed back in ‘57. Walls approx 2. 2/ mortar up the 2 end bearings drop the lintel onto these then backfill the upper surface. Hi Jitender. KBJ Active Member. Screwfix Community Forum. When lintels were cast insitu the steel was put in the bottom as this was in tension. same width does nothingdifferent than bedding the. 30 day money back guarantee. Found a company called watco that do a 2 part epoxy resin filler for. The wall plate is 2 brick courses above and it has also bowed, causing the. fix the redwood to the wall with the fixings at either side of the lintel, and then fix the curtain pole to the redwood. We are constructing a new concrete block double garage and the Architect has specified a Catnic lintol for the 3. The roof is a tiled type goong front to rear and pitched in construction. Galintel 85mm x 7mm x 1400mm Galvanised Flat Lintel Flat Bar (0) $47. The Stressline fair faced prestressed concrete lintel, 100mm wide x 215mm high, 2. The lintel more than likely would have been a separate timber lintel, you can still see the bearings where it sat or it could have been part of the frame with 4x2 horns extending into the brickwork. The easiest/most effective solution is to drill into the lintel. The ones with the black squares is where the window will be going. Funnily enough this prop doesn't actually sit over where I want to knock out the opening. There is a very small area of the wooden lintel that seems damp and soft (see the left of. The brickwork opening size is 4755mm. Grind out the notch though rather than hammer/bolster. i was going to add a piece of kingspan insulation behind the speakers. If you’ve got a brand new drill bit, you’ll find it quick and easy. It's often cheaper to use steels with a plate welded on for the face work. Busterhymen Active Member. 01m to allow a UPVC exterior door to be installed in the entrance. The material from which the windows are made has no influence on the strength of a lintel. A stone head will be sit above and in front of the sash window. 35kg/m2. However, this is structural engineer's calculation, building inspector is happy with it. The builder gave a fixed price quote. I also see on some lintel' manufacture website, they. Once this is achieved, you can happily remove the brickwork below the new lintel. I found this on my son's house, the old wooden windows had been replaced with PVC, their was a lintel on the inner leaf but none on the outer leaf. The installers need to sort it properly. I understand the loading to be 1. 5 masonry bit to punch through as this saves your nice sharp HSS bit from being blunted as you ram it throught the lintel into brickwork. Screwfix Community Forum. Thanks for any advice. jpeg File size: 601. Some lintels are marked top. 8m (wall is 3m) and need to support the roof (7×2 joists 18mm osb) but dont have the room for a rsj because of the 2. Joe the Plumber, Feb 17, 2019. The screws are spaced out by about 600 mm. 5cm long, I already had a 120cm long lintel that came with the house but would rather buy the best I can and get as much lintel on the bricks as possible. Bobby Dazzler, Nov 9, 2020 #2. I've bought four lintels through them, all came from Jewsons but all much cheaper than I could get a quote. Del boy 10, Jun 30, 2023. Cotswold Builders, Mar 6, 2015. From flat steel lintels to catnic steel lintels. [Edited by: Forum Moderator] dj. com. I would put a slightly longer lintel in that is toothed into the sides of the original builders opening. 2 = 2kN/m run of lintel so provided the lintel you are proposing quotes a Safe Working Load greater than this then all is good. It can do, depending on the age of the building. And some on the lower floor if solid, would be a good idea with board spanning the floor joists at right angles. It's often cheaper to use steels with a plate welded on for the face work. Now have upvc windows. 5 x 200 =32 kg. The bricks will be supported on a plate welded to the underside. 22 each (Inc. 5kn. 7mm thick plasterboard. or. The only outside work will be pointing the box if required when it is put back in, but that can be done from the inside. #2. It is unacceptable to screw two thin lengths of wood together to make a thicker piece and call it a lintel- 'it is not appropriate to the stresses involved'. this has left a gap between the lintel and brickwork above to be around 2” one side and about 3/4” the other side. Probably be Universal Beams. IMG_1762 (Large). For the sake of a bit of extra work and sorting that mess out just hire a couple of size 0 acrows, a couple of strongboys, stitch drill the mortar bed joint and bang them in above the higher lintel, remove all the cack underneath that's not needed and insert a new lintel once the brickwork is tidied up. so a 140x100 is 140 high as concrete lintels only span a single leaf of bricks. The old windows were wooden frame and aluminium. You’re not the source at all mate, sorry for souring your thread, ask away all you like. Abrickie Screwfix Select From those photos, it looks like the it’s a very slight arch, which makes sense as there is no sign the original window sat forward in the outer skin of brickwork, if this is the case the arch needs rebuilding not a lintel inserting. If you haven't got much depth on the wall above window you may get away with using some 6mm board screwed to the front of the lintel so it doesn't stick proud of existing finish. 8m long to accommodate the other window. Ian Dingwall New Member. . = 509. wardoss, Nov 29, 2006. Jord86 Screwfix Select. The project has secured Building Consent from local planning although there has been no. exbg, Feb 14, 2023. Anyway, because of the positioning of the lintel, I needed to trim down the bricks to fit. #2. The overhang is approx 130mm each end - googled it and. BuilderMCR, Feb 12, 2014. This could be a very easy DIY job if that wall above the opening ain't holding the ceiling/floor joists up. 9 KB Views: 48. The images attached should go some way in showing the problem. Designed for use with timber and masonry structures, they provide structural support and reinforcement. You'll find building control will say it doesn't comply with modern standards. stuart44 Screwfix Select. net) would suggest 65 x 100 will be OKThe easiest/most effective solution is to drill into the lintel. Any advice is gratefully recieved. There has obviously been a timber lintel there before the pvc cowboys came along and fitted the existing door. Bearings at each end must be at least 150mm. And besides as said, they are liable to restore. This was more common on brickwork that was n't seen, and obviously when it was seen, the more traditional decorative arch was used directly above the opening. There is no loft above, pictured will provide a better idea of the situation. I am looking to put a concrete lintel above this which will support a single coarse of blocks and the flat roof. . As suggested could end up in the big house for doing that . I the house is 1950s all brickwork and I need to replace the lintels above the doors as there will not be a big enough overhang each side. Hi, I've been having some trouble drilling into a lintel above a couple of windows, I'm fitting new blinds. In fact, on a door width size opening, you could almost eliminate the lintel once the wall above it was built and the mortar had set. 23mm (517HR) (1) compare For Angle Grinders Sabrefix Gallows Brackets Galvanised Hot Dipped 490mm x 50mm 2 Pack. D. Trowel it smooth on the exposed top face. Thanks We want to extend this opening from 46" to 55",I know I need a 1800 x 100 concrete lintel but not sure of what height I need,the 1 fitted is 65 mm many thanks. exbg Screwfix Select. Went to the merchants for a lintel yesterday, the bloke behind the counter said " how long do you want it ?" well . They were L-shaped (so I'm guessing there's another lintel for the block part of the cavity wall). I would have expected to use accro props with strong bows min of 3 for the big one. The Tech Spec for the lintel states: "As the brickwork mortar matures, lintels of over 1200mm spans should be propped at 1200mm centres. For one row of breeze blocks and not loadbearing the header would need to be at least 4" high (and that means it would be about 4" high and about 5" wide). The spec of a lintel is almost entirely dependent on the span because in theory it doesn't matter how many floors worth of walls you build on top of the lintel. Notnowvicar Screwfix Select. I use a 4mm cobalt bit from the competition (you get a pack of two for a few pence). o. 7m above the sewer then assuming the lines of influence spreadout at 45 degrees then a 3. Thanks for the advice Phil. The. Metal Wall Plugs. 2m. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Lintel into existing wall. I have exposed the internal side of the concrete lintel above my lounge window as I was adding insulation behind the plasterboard. 22 each (Inc.